DOS Days – Laptop Displays

(dosdays.co.uk)

86 points | by nullbyte808 1 day ago

17 comments

  • iamnothere 1 day ago
    I wish large greyscale LCDs were more available. Since the decline of monochrome LCDs, it’s very hard to find these cheaply. I miss both the PDA aesthetic and the low power consumption, and the e-ink ghosting issue is much worse, so it isn’t a great substitute.

    LCDs were indestructible as long as you didn’t leave them out in extremely hot or cold weather.

    • leejoramo 22 hours ago
      My all time favorite laptop was the 1994 Apple PowerBook DUO 280 with active greyscale screen. These screens actually looked the best in direct sunlight with no backlighting

      The battery life was listed as 2-4 hours. Normally it was under 3 hours. However, with no backlighting and booting a stripped down Mac OS and apps off a RAM disk, I could get close to 6 hours in BBedit or WriteNow. I would spin up the HD to save data and turn it off again.

      https://everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_duo/specs/mac_p...

    • AlanYx 23 hours ago
      My favorite display era was the short-lived period of 4-bit greyscale X-terms. Just enough shades of grey to be usable, few distractions.

      There are a lot of greyscale radiology monitors available in the used market these days, but they tend to have a relatively high white point and aren't easy on the eyes.

      • XenophileJKO 8 hours ago
        I still have nostalgia for my Hercules monochrome adapter with an amber screen.
        • lproven 1 hour ago
          Agreed.

          I have good colour and stereo vision, but I'm very shortsighted. I'm also nearly 60 and now wear varifocals with 3 focal lengths for books and phones, computers, and distance.

          But 1980s long-persistence-phosphor CRTs looked good to me, were restful to my eyes, and I could and did look at them all day.

          On today's flatscreens I can't see the difference between SD and HD, let alone on a TV across the room where it's imperceptible. I can't tell different refresh rates apart, let alone variable ones. I read excited product releases about tear-free video and fixing things I never was able to perceive in the first place and so which did not need fixing.

          Now I am losing my choice of good X11 desktops with rich standards-driven keyboard UIs, replaced by phonelike toy desktops which take 10x the RAM and 100x the CPU and GPU and require a whole new display server, and which can't do nine-tenths of the stuff I used in desktops 15 years ago.

          Apparently, because of kids with keen eyes who see things I never could.

          I suspect all this stuff about HDR and VRR and gamer screens that refresh at 100s of Hertz are just the same as audiophiles who pay absurd sums for gold-plated 100Mb Ethernet cables.

          I want to see double-blinded randomised controlled trials to prove that these people can see what they claim to see -- because I don't believe them -- and to prove to them that the bulk of the population can't tell.

  • shevy-java 21 hours ago
    > The orange gas plasma display from a Toshiba T3200SX (1989)

    For some reason I love the computers of the 1980s era, plus minus some more years, even up to about 1995 or so.

    Today's computers are of course much more powerful and cheaper per calculating unit, but also more boring. Those things in the 1980s were so wild. Also before that, 1970s. 1950s and 1960s look outright alien - also very cool.

    Of course having all that in a small smartphone is epic too, but the hardware today just doesn't interest me anymore. It seems like a "problem solved" whereas in the past, people were trying harder, including micro-optimising all available resources. That required a different kind of creativity.

    Perhaps this will come back one day in the future but I doubt it. Quantum computers would mean people don't care much about maximizing everything to the bare metal if things are already mega-fast for most tasks to solve.

  • bluedino 23 hours ago
    Mousetrails, anyone?

    I was talking with someone about a post we saw on social media, a $4999 laptop from 1992 or whatever, and it had something like an 8" screen.

    "How did people even use those laptops!?"

    Then you remember everyone didn't have a laptop for surfing Facebook and Amazon. You probably only had one of those if you were an executive or traveling salesperson.

  • neilv 20 hours ago
    The coolest use of a gas plasma display I saw in person was at my teenage software engineering internship.

    We had the coolest engineering workstation computers, Sun and almost everything else, with the huge CRTs... but strangely cooler, in a way, was the sysadmin's Ethernet diagnostics device.

    IIRC, it was built atop a rebadged Toshiba laptop with orange gas plasma display, and included a glowing bar visual display for network traffic (packets? collisions?), with corresponding geiger counter sound effects.

    A modern IPS LCD or OLED just wouldn't pair as nicely with the sound. (Analog gauges or Nixie tubes would work, though.)

  • RajT88 20 hours ago
    I loved my old Toshiba Tecra 780-DVD back in the day. I bought it used as laptop prices were falling, and got a lot of kit with it. A web cam (unheard of for its generation), DVD drive and hardware decoding (also very baller), and a docking station where I could chunk in PCI and ISA cards and full size desktop drives (I put in a DVD burner and a large desktop HDD - I forget the size, but probably tens of gigabytes).

    I told my wife that in today's dollars, the whole kit would have cost about $11k. It's hard to sink that kind of money into a laptop with OEM accessories today even if you tried hard.

    • brk 20 hours ago
      >It's hard to sink that kind of money into a laptop with OEM accessories today even if you tried hard.

      Apple has entered the chat.

      A fully specced current-gen MBP gets to about $7,500. Not $11k, but still a pretty expensive device to tote around.

      • RajT88 19 hours ago
        I'm sure they will get there.
  • Dwedit 1 day ago
    Windows 3.1 had a color scheme called "Plasma Power Saver", and that would be what it was for.
  • proee 21 hours ago
    In 1997, I paid $500 extra to upgrade my Toshiba 420CDT laptop to the "active display". The contrast was mind blowing. Totally worth it! ;-)
  • ge96 22 hours ago
    Something about the older beige laptops that is fascinating, I had gotten some Libretto C50s but sadly they are outdated, also keyboard is too small
  • vivzkestrel 11 hours ago
    just a headsup to the author, your SSL certificate has expired and is giving me warnings on the browser, you might wanna look into fixing it
  • sys_64738 1 day ago
    I remember my 800x600 Toshiba laptop back in 1997 then one of my colleagues got a posh 1024x768 HP Omnibook. I suddenly felt like a dinosaur computing user.
    • JoeBOFH 19 hours ago
      And what’s kinda sad is we only recently moved past 1280x720 as the “standard” for entry and cheap laptops.
  • danishSuri1994 1 day ago
    The old STN/FSTN monochrome panels had surprisingly good power efficiency and excellent static contrast.

    We lost that niche when the industry fully committed to color TFT,and e ink never quite replaced the responsiveness.

  • CamouflagedKiwi 1 day ago
    I remember my father having a work laptop with what seems to have been a gas plasma display (it looked pretty similar to the one in the article). Crazy to think how far we've come.
  • hulitu 7 hours ago
    I get this error: "Your clock is ahead A private connection to www.dosdays.co.uk can't be established because your device's date and time (Friday, November 21, 2025 at 8:10:19 AM) are incorrect. net::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID Turn on enhanced protection to get Chrome's highest level of security"

    on mobile, with clock syncronized automatically from mobile provider. Programming is hard.

  • pjmlp 17 hours ago
    Feeling old, I remember seeing all those models on sale at computer stores.
  • dolbex 1 day ago
    I read this title and immediately got "Dance Hall Days" in my head.
  • nosrepa 13 hours ago
    Expired certificate?
  • Scott-David 21 hours ago
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