GPT-6 Astra on OpenRouter

(openrouter.ai)

120 points | by Topfi 4 hours ago

19 comments

  • simonw 2 hours ago
    I posted this in the other Astra thread but it's just fallen off the homepage, so...

    Pelicans from Astra, plus 5.6 Sol, Terra, Luna for comparison: https://static.simonwillison.net/static/2026/gpt-6-and-5.6-p...

    I think this is a genuinely interesting comparison grid. Astra may be more expensive, but if you have a budget of 10 cents for a Pelican Astra low gives you something SO much better than the other models.

    Astra uses less tokens overall too, for better results.

    Astra transcript here: https://tools.simonwillison.net/markdown-svg-renderer?url=ht...

    • jsdalton 1 hour ago
      Simon do you have a page somewhere that shows _all_ of the penguins created by various models across time?

      You’ve been doing this public service for so long (well, for so long in “AI hype” years anyway) that it’d be fascinating to see the evolution of this artifact across time.

    • bnorton 19 minutes ago
      You’re closer to this than I am but do you find it odd that helmets are almost never included? Biking is almost always accompanied by helmets
      • neutronicus 2 minutes ago
        At least one reasoning trace I saw considered a helmet and discarded the idea because it was worried about obscuring some detail
      • maxlapdev 8 minutes ago
        But pelicans are almost never accompanied by helmets, so it cancels out.
    • vb-8448 1 hour ago
      I find curios that Astra's pelicans are basically the same (yellow sun top right corner, green bike, same bike shape, same legs style, very similar background) while in other there is more randomness.
      • thimabi 1 hour ago
        This tracks with what OpenAI has been saying about Astra: that it tends to do things in a certain way and it’s up to you to prompt it to change its style.
      • pizza234 59 minutes ago
        Astra is the only model that correctly depicts occlusion of crank and leg, although interestingly, at max and medium levels (not in between).
    • andai 1 hour ago
      Oh my goodness. I was not prepared for Luna on "none".

      Reminded me of https://clocks.brianmoore.com/

      • tyre 1 hour ago
        Haiku the GOAT
    • BrokenCogs 1 hour ago
      Interesting that all of the bikes are turquoise colored, except for the medium effort
    • Xunjin 2 hours ago
      Do you have other ideas of "combinations" for this kind of benchmark?

      I'm wondering if this is being trained on by the models today.

      • r_lee 1 hour ago
        I have a feeling they've been doing that for a while now, even if unintentional, as it's such a well known benchmark
    • fHr 43 minutes ago
      Luna is my go to daily model it's great value
      • tuo-lei 8 minutes ago
        Me toooo, for all my personal projects I need to pay for the tokens~ At workplace I use sol because I don't need to pay
      • ghthor 24 minutes ago
        Mine as well, it’s fast and keeps me in flow; and cheap!
    • lspears 1 hour ago
      Luna's price seems off
      • droidjj 26 minutes ago
        The price is probably coming from when Luna was first released. OpenAI slashed the price by 80% at the end of July.
        • simonw 20 minutes ago
          Yes! Good catch, thanks - I'll fix that.
          • simonw 13 minutes ago
            I had the prices wrong on Sol and Terra as well - they've all had price drops:

            https://openai.com/index/advancing-the-price-performance-fro...

            Sol discount is until November 21, 2026 according to https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/changelog

              Luna — costs in cents
              +--------+--------+---------+
              | Effort | Before | After   |
              +--------+--------+---------+
              | max    |   7.83 |    1.57 |
              | xhigh  |   4.24 |    0.85 |
              | high   |   2.46 |    0.49 |
              | medium |   1.26 |    0.25 |
              | low    |   0.76 |    0.15 |
              | none   |   0.71 |    0.14 |
              +--------+--------+---------+
              Per million tokens:
              Before: $1 input / $6 output
              After:  $0.20 input / $1.20 output
            
              Sol — costs in cents
              +--------+--------+---------+
              | Effort | Before | After   |
              +--------+--------+---------+
              | max    |  48.55 |   32.37 |
              | xhigh  |  24.11 |   16.08 |
              | high   |  10.38 |    6.92 |
              | medium |  10.55 |    7.03 |
              | low    |   8.33 |    5.55 |
              | none   |   5.90 |    3.93 |
              +--------+--------+---------+
              Per million tokens:
              Before: $5 input / $30 output
              After:  $4 input / $20 output
            
              Terra — costs in cents
              +--------+--------+---------+
              | Effort | Before | After   |
              +--------+--------+---------+
              | max    |  32.09 |   25.67 |
              | xhigh  |  14.67 |   11.74 |
              | high   |   3.74 |    2.99 |
              | medium |   3.46 |    2.77 |
              | low    |   3.47 |    2.78 |
              | none   |   2.60 |    2.08 |
              +--------+--------+---------+
              Per million tokens:
              Before: $2.50 input / $15 output
              After:  $2 input / $12 output
    • leoqa 2 hours ago
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      • samuelknight 2 hours ago
        How are we supposed to know if Astra is frontier without the pelican?
      • satvikpendem 2 hours ago
        It's simonw. It's interesting to see their pelican benchmark, another comment by a different author elsewhere here shows some very good SVG generation too.
      • ComplexSystems 2 hours ago
        It's absolutely related.
    • StopTheCringe 1 hour ago
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  • XCSme 2 hours ago
    That's some crazy SVG generation:

    https://aibenchy.com/compare/openai-gpt-6-astra-high/google-...

    It took a while to test it, initially OpenRouter was giving Not Found errors for this model ID.

    • satvikpendem 2 hours ago
      That's quite shocking, at a sufficiently advanced level we can make all non-realistic graphics purely out of SVGs, as they'd have good scaling for things like logos and app icons. I know it was technically and theoretically possible before AI but most people weren't spending hours tweaking SVG HTML. I remember making an SVG dark mode toggle icon and it took days to get it right, I assume it's one shottable now.
      • kulahan 1 hour ago
        That photo looks pretty hilariously stupid, so this appears to be more of a first toe dip rather than some indication we can one-shot a previously difficult process.
        • appplication 1 hour ago
          Sure, it is a bit cartoonish but it’s relatively impressive. I do wonder what you would get if you asked for photorealism
    • embedding-shape 2 hours ago
      At the bottom it says "Score 98.58", what measure is used for this score? It's kind of horrible, the perspective is all off (legs of the table makes that very obvious), the mouse/hamster has two mouths, a stub for a right paw, looks like left hand holds a melon on a stick or something, and there are pluses in the background for some reason. Not sure it'd call it "close to perfect" which the score seems to want to indicate.
    • readams 54 minutes ago
      The Astra one looks pretty good except it's standing on the wrong side of the table
  • kingstnap 3 hours ago
    Its also available finally to Pro users! Just took 24 hours.
    • InsideOutSanta 3 hours ago
      They gave out bankable resets for every day people on pro plans didn't get Astra. Given that, I wish they'd waited a few more days before activating it on my account :-D
      • paxys 3 hours ago
        That's a pretty genius internal incentive to move fast.
      • wincy 3 hours ago
        They haven’t activated Astra for me yet, I have two resets now. I’ve been using the opportunity to test out how good 5.6 Sol is at computer use asking it to generate stuff in Blender which has been… interesting

        Edit: nevermind it JUST gave me a notification to use it!

      • embedding-shape 2 hours ago
        > They gave out bankable resets for every day people on pro plans didn't get Astra.

        Yeah, when I saw that Tweet I knew the person was saying it because they knew it'll be available within 24h.

  • jaesonaras 1 hour ago
    Anyone had success using Astra as a Foundry model via Github Copilot? The error I get is that tooling is not available if reasoning has a value.
  • vb-8448 1 hour ago
    Played in codex app a couple of hours today: it feels much faster than SOL, even if the TPS is half of it.
  • algoth1 3 hours ago
    Just got it. European plus user here. Only codex, no chatgpt
  • gavinray 3 hours ago
    I have GPT-6 access in Codex and OpenAI API now

    I'm a Business plan user with Cyber verification enabled, FWIW.

    • embedding-shape 2 hours ago
      Same just got access literally this minute, Pro user here, no Cyber verification but have passed my ID over to them back in 2024 or something, maybe at the ChatGPT 3 API launch or something?

      Has there been anything published about if Astra uses different amount of usage from your subscription plan compared to Sol? Don't recall coming across that in the press releases.

  • r_lee 3 hours ago
    is Azure for this actually ZDR?
  • starik36 2 hours ago
    What is the actual utility of using this model on Azure? It's twice as expensive, according to the link.

    Do Azure offer something that simply hitting the OpenAI endpoint doesn't provide?

    • hhh 1 hour ago
      It's the same price as regular processing. You get guarantees microsoft give you, which are ones OpenAI won't (or require dedicated spend,) and you can use azure identities for access.
    • claiir 2 hours ago
      They’re ZDR and the OAI ones aren’t
      • paxys 1 hour ago
        OpenAI also has ZDR for enterprise accounts.
      • olalonde 37 minutes ago
        WTHIT?
    • itsjustkev 2 hours ago
      Compared to OpenAI flex? I'm pretty sure that is their batch processing endpoint, which is naturally cheaper.
  • cute_boi 3 hours ago
    I got it, but sadly no resets...
  • vatsachak 3 hours ago
    Damn I am so hyped
  • marsven_422 1 hour ago
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  • StopTheCringe 1 hour ago
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  • OpenGayEye_ 1 hour ago
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  • noob0053 3 hours ago
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    • taywrobel 2 hours ago
      You made an account just to post this?
  • 6thbit 2 hours ago
    Invoking simonw for pelicans pretty please.
  • Osama0456 3 hours ago
    is it finally available on openrouter and what about fable 5.1
    • r_lee 3 hours ago
      that's literally what the link is for...